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>> Reporter: THAT'S GOOD TO
HEAR.
>> Megyn: I WANT TO LET YOU
KNOW.
HE LOOKS NICE, DOESN'T HE ED.
ESPECIALLY TODAY.
BESIDES THE JOBS PUSH AND CALL
FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND
WARNING ABOUT THE NEW RULES ON
GLOBAL WARMING, THERE WAS A
POWERFUL MOMENT AT LAST NIGHT'
STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS
WHERE PRESIDENT OBAMA CALLED
FOR A VOTE ON GUN CONTROL.
>> HADIYA'S PARENTS, NICK AND
CLEO ARE HERE IN THE CHAMBER,
ALONG WITH TWO DOZEN AMERICANS
WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN TORN
APART BY GUN VIOLENCE.
THEY DESERVE A VOTE.
THEY DESERVE A VOTE.
[APPLAU
[APPLAUSE].
THEY DESERVE A VOTE.
GABBY GIFFORDS DESERVES A
VOTE.
THE FAMILIES OF NEWTOWN
DESERVE A VOTE.
>> Megyn: BUT WHO'S STOPPING
THE VOTE?
STEVE HAYES IS THE SENIOR
WRITER WITH THE WEEKLY
STANDARD JOINS ME NOW.
STEVE, JENNIFER RUBEN OF "THE
WASHINGTON POST" HAS AN
INTERESTING PIECE IN WHICH SHE
SAYS FLAT-OUT THAT THIS IS
MANIPULATIVE THEATERICS AND
IT'S BIZARRE, BECAUSE THERE IS
HE' SOMEBODY HE NEEDS TO POINT
TO TO GET A VOTE ON GUN
CONTROL AND IT HAPPENS TO BE A
DEMOCRAT BY THE NAME OF HARRY
REID.
>> RIGHT, A DEMOCRAT BY THE
NAME OF HARRY REID, WHO HAS
OPPOSED SOME OF THE VERY KIND
OF THINGS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA
IS CALLING FOR A VOTE ON THIS
TIME.
SO, YEAH, I THINK THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD NUDGE PEOPLE
IN HIS OWN PARTY TO DO THE
THINGS THAT HE WANTS THEM TO
DO.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM DO IT ON
GUN CONTROL, CERTAINLY DIDN'T
SEE HIM DO IT ON IMMIGRATION
AND NEVER DID IT ON SENATE
BUDGE PROPOSAL.
>> Megyn: SHE CALLS IT AN
EMPTY GESTURE UNTIED TO
POLITICAL REALITY.
IF YOU WATCHED THAT MOMENT, HE
SEEMED TO BE IMPLYING THAT
THERE WERE LAWMAKERS THERE AND
ONE WOULD ASSUME IT WAS
LAWMAKERS ON THE OPPOSITE
AISLE FROM THE PRESIDENT WHO
ARE GOING TO STOP GABBY
GIFFORDS AND OTHER VICTIMS OF
GUN VIOLENCE FROM GETTING A
VOTE ON THIS LEGISLATION.
THAT'S NOT THE REALITY RIGHT
NOW IN THE U.S. CONGRESS.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT AND LOOK,
ANYTIME THE PRESIDENT SPEAKS
IN A VENUE LIKE THIS, HE'S GOT
SEVERAL AUDIENCES AND CLEARLY
WHAT HE'S SAYING IS NOT FOR
THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN
FRONT OF HIM.
AS YOU POINT OUT.
HARRY REID COULD HAVE A VOTE
ANYTIME HE WANTS TO AND I
THINK THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO
BUILD A PUBLIC CASE TO GET, TO
RALLY PUBLIC OPINION SO THAT
FOLKS OUT IN THE COUNTRY
PARTICULARLY IN THE RED STATES
WHERE SUCH GUN CONTROL
MEASURES ARE NOT LIKELY TO BE
POPULAR WILL PUSH THEIR
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS JUST TO DO
SOMETHING AND PUSH HARRY REID
TO HOLD THE VOTE.
>> Megyn: THAT'S THE PROBLEM
THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS.
THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON
HERE, HE SAID HE'S GOING TO IN
THE SECOND TERM APPEAL MORE TO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN THE
LAWMAKERS AND USUALLY SAYING
ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, BUT IN
THIS CASE ON HIS OWN SIDE AS
WELL.
A POINT THAT GENERALJENNIFER RUBEN
WRITES AS FOLLOWS.
I IMAGINE AT THIS PART OF THE
SEAT.
RED STATE LEGISLATORS ARE
BREAKING INTO A COLD SWEAT.
THE 60th VOTE ON THE UNPOPULAR
OBAMACARE AND NOW THE
PRESIDENT WANTS THEM TO VOTE
ON AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND
TAX HIKES, CLIMATE CONTROL
LEGISLATION?
IT'S A POLITICAL NIGHTMARE SHE
SAYS FOR THEM.
>> YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE A
HANDFUL OF DEMOCRATIC SENATORS
FROM RED STATES WHO ARE GOING
BE TO BE INCREASINGLY
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THE
PRESIDENT WANTS TO DO
PARTICULARLY WITH THE AGENDA
ITEMS THAT ARE, YOU COULD SAY
SORT OF CULTURAL ISSUES,
WHETHER IT'S IMMIGRATION, GUN
CONTROL, YOU NAME IT.
THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE CLEAR
HE INTENDS TO FOLLOW THROUGH
ON THESE PUSHES.
HE SAID SHORTLY AFTER SANDY
HOOK HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A
SERIOUS AND CONCERTED PUSH FOR
GUN CONTROL MEASURES.
WE'RE SEEING HIM DO IT.
DEMOCRATS IN RED STATES ARE
NOT GOING TO LIKE THAT.
IT'S GOING TO PUT THEM IN
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT ISSUE,
AND YOU'RE LIKELY TO SEE MORE
WITH IMMIGRATION AND
DEMOCRATIC SENATORS IN RED
STATES ON FISCAL AND ECONOMIC
ISSUES.
I MEAN, THE COMMENTS THE
PRESIDENT MADE LAST NIGHT ON
DEBT AND DEFICIT I THOUGHT
GIVING SHORT SHRIFT ON THOSE
ISSUES THEY MATTER
PARTICULARLY IN RED STATES,
THAT'S TOUGH FOR THOSE
DEMOCRATIC SENATORS AS WELL.
>> Megyn: SO WHAT HAPPENS
GOING FORWARD?
BECAUSE IF THESE RED STATE
DEMOCRATS AND WHAT IS IT, SIX
SEATS THAT THE DEMOCRATS NEED,
A NET GAIN OF SIX SEATS, THE
REPUBLICANS NEED TO GAIN IN
ORDER TO CONTROL THE SENATE
CHAMBER.
>> RIGHT.
>> Megyn: SO, IT MATTERS HOW
THESE CONSTITUENTS IN THE RED
STATES SEE THESE DEMOCRATIC
SENATORS.
IF THEY GO ALONG WITH THE
PRESIDENT'S AGENDA ARE THERE
THEREFORE JEOPARDIZING THAT
PARTY'S CONTROL OF THE SENATE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
QUESTION ABOUT IT.
RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THAT
THE FIELD MASS TILTED PRETTY
SERIOUSLY AGAINST DEMOCRATS
FOR THE SENATE IN 2014
PRECISELY BECAUSE SO MANY OF
THESE DEMOCRATS WERE SWEPT
INTO OFFICE WHEN PRESIDENT
OBAMA FIRST WON ELECTION IN
2008.
SO, THERE WAS THIS WAVE
ELECTION, A LOT OF THEM CAME
IN ON HIS COAT TAILS AND
ASKING FOR AN AGENDA THAT IS
UNAPOLOGETICALLY MORE
PROGRESSIVE THAN THE ONE HE
PUSHED EARLIER IN THE FIRST
TERM.
HE RAN IN 2012 AS A
PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT.
HE WON.
THE PRESIDENT THINKS THIS WAS
AN AFFIRMATION OF THAT RECORD,
I THINK RATHER UNDERSTANDABLY
FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.
HE'S NOW PUSHING AN AGENDA
THAT'S GOING TO PUT SOME OF
THESE SEATS IN JEOPARDY.
THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE ON ONE
HAND AND LOYAL TO THE
PRESIDENT ON THE OTHER.
>> SORT OF WHAT WE SAW WITH
OBAMACARE AND WE KNOW HOW THAT