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>>> EGYPT'S PRESIDENT, MOHAMED
MORSI IS UNDER FIRE FOR SAYING
ZIONISTS ARE THE DESCENDENTS OF
APES AND PIGS.
MORSI ALSO URGED EGYPTIANS TO,
QUOTE, NURSE OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN ON HATRED, HATRED
AGAINST JEWS.
SENATOR KUNZ JOINS US FROM
CAIRO.
WHAT DID HE SAY WHEN THIS ISSUE
WAS RAISED TO HIM?
WHAT WAS HIS RESPONSE, SENATOR?
>> ANDREA, THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT
MEETING FOR US TODAY TO MEET
WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, THE
DEFENSE MINISTER, OPPOSITION
LEADERS, BUSINESS LEADERS AND,
FINALLY, WITH PRESIDENT MORSI,
AND ALL OF US PRESSED OUR
CONCERN, OUR OFFENSE AT THE
THINGS HE'S ALLEGED TO HAVE SAID
A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
AND HE RESPONDED THAT HE IS NOT
SOMEONE WHO HARBORS HATRED OR
ILL FEELING TOWARDS JUDISM OR
THE JEWISH PEOPLE, BUT THE
BURDEN IS ON HIM TO FURTHER
EXPLAIN AND PUT IN CONTEXT NOT
JUST HIS STATEMENTS, BUT ALSO
HIS ACTIONS.
EGYPT IS A VITAL PARTNER FOR THE
UNITED STATES, WE ALSO DISCUSSED
CRITICAL STRATEGIC ISSUES, SUCH
AS SECURITY IN THE SINAI RESPECT
FOR THE CAMP DAVID PEACE ACCORDS
WITH ISRAEL AND THE CONSTRUCTIVE
ROLE THAT WE HOPE EGYPT CAN PLAY
IN THE REGION GOING FORWARD,
BUT, OBVIOUSLY, HIS STATEMENTS
AND OUR GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
THEM WERE AT THE OUTSET OF THE
MEETING.
THE RESPONSES WERE SATISFACTORY
ENOUGH THAT WE THEN WENT ON TO
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER
VITAL REGIONAL STRATEGIC ISSUES.
>> NOW, THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE
STATE DEPARTMENT HAVE BOTH
CONDEMNED WHAT HE SAID, SO FROM
MY OWN EXPERIENCE, THEY WOULD
NOT HAVE CONDEMNED WHAT THE
PRESIDENT OF EGYPT SAID IF HE
HAD NOT, IN FACT, SAID IT, IF
THERE WERE SOME -- IF THERE
WEREN'T SOME FACTUAL BASE TO
THIS.
GOING FORWARD, IS THIS JUST THAT
HE HAS A DIFFERENT JOB NOW, A
DIFFERENT ROLE TO PLAY AND YOU
THINK THAT HE CAN BE INCLUSIVE
AND IS WILLING TO CERTAINLY LIVE
UP TO THE PEACE TREATY WITH
ISRAEL AND BE THE RESPONSIBLE
PLAYER THAT THE WHITE HOUSE
HOPES HE CAN BE?
>> I'M HOPEFUL, BUT FRANKLY
WE'RE GOING TO WATCH VERY
CLOSELY HIS ACTIONS, AS WELL AS
HIS WORDS.
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THERE IS A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT FOLKS
SAY BEFORE THEIR ELECTION AND
THEN NOW THAT HE IS IN THE
IMPORTANT ROLE OF PRESIDENT OF
THE REPUBLIC OF EGYPT, BUT IT
DID RAISE SOME VERY GRAVE
CONCERNS, AND I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO
EXPRESS OUR VALUES AND TO MAKE
IT CLEAR THAT WE EXPECT OUR
ALLIES TO BOTH PUBLICLY AND
PRIVATELY ACT IN WAYS THAT ARE
RESPECTFUL OF THE VALUES THAT
THE UNITED STATES YOU ALSO, I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN ABLE
TO CHECK THIS OUT FROM CAIRO,
BUT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS
CONFIRMED THERE ARE SOME
AMERICANS, AMONG 41 HOSTAGES
THAT HAVE NOW BEEN TAKEN AT BP
IN ALGERIA.
DURING AN ATTACK FROM MALI
INSURGENTS.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT
IT?
>> YES, ANDREA, THE TRIP THAT
I'M ON, WE WERE ACTUALLY
SUPPOSED TO GO TO MALI INITIALLY
BUT WERE DIVERTED BECAUSE OF THE
DEGENERATING SECURITY SITUATION
THERE.
THE HOSTAGES THAT HAVE BEEN
TAKEN IN EASTERN ALGERIA ARE A
STEP THAT WAS THREATENED BY THE
AL QAEDA, THE ISLAMIST
EXTREMISTS WHO WERE MAKING THE
SECURITY SITUATION IN MALI SO
INTENABLE THAT THE FRENCH FELT
COMPELLED TO TAKE MILITARY
ACTION.
I SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION'S
DECISION TO SUPPORT THE FRENCH
MILITARY ACTION.
WE'RE PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE AND
LOGISTICS SUPPORT, AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO ADVOCATING IN
CONGRESS FOR THE FINANCIAL
RESOURCES NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT
THE APPROPRIATE STEPS ARE TAKEN,
BOTH BY THE FRENCH AND REGIONAL
MILITARIES.
THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL HAS
AUTHORIZED THIS ACTION, THE
MALIAN PRESIDENT HAD REQUESTED
HELP, AND THE CONCERNING
SITUATION OF THE AMERICAN
HOSTAGES AND OTHER WESTERN
HOSTAGES IS JUST ONE BRACING
REMINDER, ANDREA, OF HOW
DANGEROUS AND HOW DIFFICULT THE
SITUATION IN MALI IS AND HOW
MUCH OF A RISK THEY POSE TO
SECURITY IN THE REGION.
>> I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE A FEW
SECONDS LEFT, BUT I WANT TO
QUICKLY ASK YOU, YOU'RE
TRAVELING WITH JOHN McCAIN AND
OTHERS IN THE DELEGATION, ARE
YOU ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF
CHUCK HAGEL AS YOU'RE ON THE
FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE
GOING TO BE SITTING IN ON THOSE
HEARINGS?
>> I VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO
HAVING A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH
CHUCK HAGEL, SENATOR HAGEL, IN
PERSON AND TO HAVE HIM ANSWER
SOME QUESTIONS, SOME CONCERNS
THAT I HAVE.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME VIGOROUS
DISCUSSIONS AMONGST THE SENATORS
ON THIS TRIP.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT
SENATOR HAGEL.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT
HAVING A CHANCE TO TRAVEL TO
PLACES LIKE EGYPT OR MALI AS A
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION IS A
CHANCE TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN
COMMON, WHAT UNITES US.
WE'RE NEXT GOING TO VISIT U.S.
TROOPS, AND I THINK ONE OF THE
THING THAT UNITES US IS ENSURING
OUR ARMED FORCES, THOSE WHO WORK
TO KEEP US SAFE AROUND THE
WORLD, HAVE THE RESOURCES AND
SUPPORT THEY DESERVE.
>> I MISSPOKE, BECAUSE, OF
COURSE, ON THE FOREIGN RELATIONS
COMMITTEE YOU HAVE JOHN KERRY
COMING UP NEXT, NOT JOHN HAGEL
WHO HAS HIS CONFIRMATION HEARING
FOR THE 31st IN FRONT OF ARMED