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>> SEAN: WELCOME BACK TO
"HANNITY."
AS WE TRY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF WHO CHANGING THE TALKING
POINTS ON BENGHAZI.
HARRY REID SAYS HE REFUSES TO
ALLOW REPUBLICANS TO CREATE A
SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE
THE BENGHAZI TERROR ATTACK,
SAYING A PANEL WOULD FURTHER
POLITICIZE THE FALLOUT OVER THE
ATTACKS.
JOING ME IS LIEUTENANT COLONEL
THOMAS MacANERNY AND FORMER
CIA OFFICER, PETER BROOKS.
I DIDN'T GET THE MESSAGE ON THE
GOLD TIE.
BUT GOOD TO SE YOU BOTH.
LOOK, IT SEEMS TO ME, THIS IS
PRETTY OBVIOUS THIS.
SHOULDN'T BE POLITICIZED.
WE HAVE FOUR DEAD AMERICAN,
FIRST AMBASSADOR KILLED IN 30
YEARS, WHY ARE MY SUSPICIONS
GOING TO, OH, THIS IS JUST
BEFORE AN ELECTION, WE CAN'T LET
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD
OF TIME WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
COLONEL?
>>.
>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE FOG OF
WAR, WE ARE SEEING THE FOG OF
THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NEW NOW.
THERE IS NO REASON THEA CANNOT
COME AND SAY, WE HAD AN ATTACK
BY RADICAL ISLAMIST ELEMENTS ON
OUR CONSULATE IN BENGHAZI.
AND THE WORLD WOULD HAVE
FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT -- EXCEPT WE
LOST FOUR PEOPLE.
INSTEAD, THEY HAVE PILED ON
DIFFERENT VIEWS.
WE SAW THE LATEST VIEW THIS
MORNING WHEN GENERAL PETRAEUS
TALKED.
IT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND WHY THE
PRESIDENT JUST DOESN'T TAKE
FULL--
>>> ARE YOU CONVINCED HE LIED,
COLONEL?
>> WELL, I AM CONVINCED THAT HE
IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.
I AM AM CONVINCED THERE WERE
SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE INVOLVED
IN THIS OPERATION AND THAT THE
PRESIDENT WAS IN CHARGE AND MADE
THE DECISIONS TO STAND DOWN
BECAUSE WHEN HAVE YOU THE
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THERE, HAVE
YOU STATE AROUND, YOU HAVE CIA,
THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON THAT
CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
AND THAT'S THE PRESIDENT.
SO I AM CONVINCED THAT HE IS
TELLING A DIFFERENT NARRATIVE
THAN WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
ARE GETTING.
>> SEAN: BY THE WAY, I
APOLOGIZE, I MEANT GENERAL.
PETER BROOKS, WITH YOUR SOURCES
IN THE CIA, I HEAR THERE WAS A
LOT OF TENSION, PRIOR TO GENERAL
PETRAEUS LEAVING THE CIA IN
LARGE PART BECAUSE HE DIDN'T
LIKE HIS AGENCY BEING THROWN
DOWN THE STAIRS.
YOUR SOURCES TOLD YOU ANYTHING
LIKE THAT?
>> IT'S CLEAR THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY WAS MADE A SCAPEGOAT A
LONG TIME AGO, OVER THIS ISSUE.
I MEAN, THIS RAN COUNTER TO THE
PRESIDENT'S NARRATIVE, AS THE
GENERAL ALLUDED TO, THAT AL
QAEDA'S ON THE RUN, AL QAEDA'S
ON THE ROAD TO DEFEAT OSAMA BIN
LADEN IS DEAD AND G.M. IS ALIVE.
THIS IS COUNTER TO THE NARRATIVE
THAT ARAB SPRING WAS A SUCCESS,
LIBYA WAS A SUCCESS.
THE LAST THING THEY WANTED TO
SAY WAS THE AMERICAN CONSULATE
WAS ATTACKED ON 9/11 BY AL
QAEDA.
THE FIRST ESCAPE GOAT WAS THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND THE
PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT HA.
>> SEAN: I WANT TO KNOW, IF THE
CIA SAID IT WAS AL QAEDA AND
GENERAL PETRAEUS KNEW
INSTANTANEOUSLY WHAT THIS WAS
ABOUT AND THIS IS THE
ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11 AND THE
LIBYAN PRESIDENT IS SAYING THIS
EARLY ON AND -- AND WE ARE
WATCHING IT IN REALTIME, AND
EVERYBODY ELSE, WE KNEW WITHIN
24 HOURS OF THE ATTACK, THE
STATION CHIEF IS SAYING THIS
FROM LIBYA, HOW DID WE POSSIBLY
GET TO THE VIDEO IN THE FIRST
PLACE?
DOES ANYBODY KNOW?
>> WELL, THE VIDEO -- MY
UNDERSTANDING THE VIDEO WAS
SECURITY CAMERAS THAT WERE
RUNNING AT THAT TIME, AVAILABLE,
THEY WOULD BE RUNNING AT MOST
DIPLOMATIC FACILITIES AROUND THE
WORLD.
AND THAT SORT OF VIDEO WAS
RECOVERED AND PROBABLY
TRANSMITTED BACK TO WASHINGTON,
EITHER IMMEDIATELY--
>>> MAYBE YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY
QUESTION.
HOW DO WE GET TO BLAMING THIS ON
A youtube VIDEO?
>> OH, OKAY.
I THINK WHAT IT IS THAT THE
INTELLIGENCE WAS POLITICIZED.
THEY GAVE THEIR BEST ASSESSMENT,
INCLUDING WHAT GENERAL PETRAEUS
TOLD CONGRESS ABOUT AL QAEDA
INVOLVEMENT, BEING A TERRORIST
ATTACK AND AS IT WENT UP THE OF
COMMAND, THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE
HOUSE WHO SENT OUT AMBASSADOR
RICE TO REPRESENT THE WHITE
HOUSE ON THE SUNDAY SHOW,
DECIDED WHAT THE TALKING POINTS
WOULD BE.
MY SENSE IS, WE ARE GOING TO
HEAR FROM THEM, WE ARE TRYING TO
PROTECT THE INTELLIGENCE SOURCES
ANDxx METHODS.
WE DIDN'T WANT AL QAEDA TO KNOW
WE WERE ON TO THEM OR PERHAPS--
>>> IT'S LATE FOR THAT --
>> WE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ASSESSMENTS OUT THERE AND
THAT -- THIS WAS ONLY ONE OF THE
ASSESSMENTS, WAS CIA, BUT OTHER
PEOPLE WERE TELLING US IT MAY
HAVE BEEN THIS VIDEO AND THIS IS
WHEN WE DECIDED ON.
THEY ARE GOING ON SPIN THIS.
THEY HAVE A DAY OR TWO TO DO
THAT BEFORE MONDAY MORNING WHEN
THE PRESS WILL START ASKING THEM
QUESTIONS?
>> GENERAL, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK PETER'S PRET LEONTO
IT, EXCEPT, LOOK, THERE ARE
UPWARDS OF 20-PLUS EMBASSIES
THAT WERE BEING ATTACKED OR
DEMONSTRATIONS BASED ON THE
youtube VIDEO.
SO THEY OBVIOUSLY SAW THAT AND
TRIED TO SWITCH IT OVER TO
BENGHAZI, WHICH WAS THE WRONG
DECISION.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY TRIED
TO DO IT.
IT WASN'T NECESSARY, EXCEPT IT
DID DESTROY THE NARRATIVE THAT
HE HAD BEEN SPINNING
POLITICALLY.
SO IT REALLY MEANS THAT THE
POLITICIANS GOT INVOLVED WITH
THIS, NOT THE INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES.
THEY WERE TOLD TO DO CERTAIN
THINGS, THAT BECAME VERY CLEAR
THIS MORNING, WHEN GENERAL
PETRAEUS TESTIFIED.
--
>>> I WANT TO KNOW --
>> IT WAS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
>> SEAN: I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY
DENIED AFTER THE BRITISH
AMBASSADOR LEFT, AFTER THE RED
CROSS LEFT, WHY DID THEY DENY
AMBASSADOR STEVENS MULTIPLE
REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL
SECURITY?
THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.
WHY DIDN'T THEY BEEF UP SECURITY
ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11?
AND DURING THE ATTACK, CLEARLY
REQUESTS FOR HELP, WE HAD CIA
PEOPLE IN TRIPOLI CHARTER AN
AIRPLANE TO GO HELP THESE GUYS
BUT THERE WERE ONLY SIX OF THEM.
WHERE WAS THE ARE THE
ASSISTANCE?
>> SEAN, THEY GET A HUGE "F" FOR
PRE-PLANNING ON THE 11th
ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A GLOBAL HAWK
OVER BENGHAZI THAT HAD FOUR
SENSOR, LOOKING AT THAT AT THAT TIME
CONTINUOUSLY.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD OFF-SHORE
ARMED PREDATORS THAT COULD HAVE
COME IN, OR ARMED F-16s, WE
SHOULD HAVE DONE A LOT OF
THINGS.
AND FRANKLY, THE MILITARY AND
THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF WAS
COMMANDENER CHIEF, HAD THAT
NARRATIVE THAT EVERYTHING IS
OKAY.
AND WE WERE JUST UTTERLY
UNPREPARED.
WE DID NO PREPLANNING AND I
BELIEVE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF OUGHT TO
TAKE SOME HITS FOR THAT.
>> SEAN: GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU
BOTH.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THAT
STORY.
AND COMING UP, TWO OF THE BIG
STORIES WE ARE FOLLOWING, A
MEETING OF THE MINDS AT THE
WHITE HOUSE.
AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE, QUOTE,
FISCAL CLIFF.
ARE REPUBLICANS GOING TO HOLD
THE LINE ON RAISING YOUR TAXES?
AND DID THE PRESIDENT GREENLIGHT
SPENDING CUTS?
WE WILL CHECK IN WITH
CONGRESSMAN LOUIS GOMER AND A
TENSE SITUATION IN THE
MIDDLE-EAST, AS ISRAEL
REPORTEDLY IS NOW READIED 75,000
RESERVISTS AND THEY HAVE TANKS
ON THE BORDER IFAR A POSSIBLE
GROUND WAR.
WE WILL GO TO ISRAEL WITH A LIVE
REPORT, STRAIGHT AHEAD.